Colonial Fleet star system Cyrannus

gmd3d · February 26th, 2011, 03:21 PM

In relation to a post by Peter Noble thread
"So who's going to come up with the TOS version?"

https://www.colonialfleets.com/forums...ad.php?t=17723

I would like to ask the members here to submit ideas of the 12 Colonies worlds ...

what the planets are like, the cultures, and whatever aspect you think would expend the classic BSG universe.

I know many support a single star system and some like the multi Star system layout.

But I don´t want to get stuck on debates on the merits on one or the other. So I am going to do both. perhaps 2 separate threads will be the way to go.

Benedict · February 26th, 2011, 06:18 PM

I have some ideas on worlds but will have to consult my writer's notes. Definitely will try my bit for the thread.

gmd3d · February 27th, 2011, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Benedict

I have some ideas on worlds but will have to consult my writer's notes. Definitely will try my bit for the thread.

Great .... the more info the better

these will be made in 3d

sample included by PolyGone.
This could be Caprica or Virgon

Benedict · March 1st, 2011, 12:08 PM

I had a look at my notes and I fear their somewhat embarassing. Turns out what I had on the 12 Colonies were vague, the Pacifica notes go on beyond the Destruction.

But what I have for one thing has Virgon as Virgo and Picon as Pisces. Pisces has Great Lakes (far bigger than our own Great Lakes in North America) as well as dormant volcanoes (I have during the Holocaust the Cylons' attack forcing volcanoes to erupt all over the place).

Virgon is home to the majority of the Colonial shipyards, I pictured it as gaseous with a muddy brown surface.

Sagitaria I have people being fired upon as they run up hills so not much there...

I fear that's my cubits worth.

gmd3d · March 1st, 2011, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Benedict

I had a look at my notes and I fear their somewhat embarassing. Turns out what I had on the 12 Colonies were vague, the Pacifica notes go on beyond the Destruction.

But what I have for one thing has Virgon as Virgo and Picon as Pisces. Pisces has Great Lakes (far bigger than our own Great Lakes in North America) as well as dormant volcanoes (I have during the Holocaust the Cylons' attack forcing volcanoes to erupt all over the place).

Virgon is home to the majority of the Colonial shipyards, I pictured it as gaseous with a muddy brown surface.

Sagitaria I have people being fired upon as they run up hills so not much there...

I fear that's my cubits worth.

its something ..

we can work on it

Benedict · March 1st, 2011, 01:24 PM

Well, if there's anything there I'll be happy to say I did my bit

I've being trying to piece together spare notes as I didn't want all my warrior characters coming from Caprica -sort of like Corellia in Star Wars. I have a joke by one character about people from Aires [sp.] relating to physical features but that aside not much.

Besides, I feel like I'm promoting my stuff so I'll stop.

gmd3d · March 1st, 2011, 02:04 PM

your ideas are as valid as anyone else so put it in.

I have idea but not ready yet.

we can work them out later down the road and see what works or can work.

peter noble · March 1st, 2011, 02:09 PM

In the system that contains Caprica, is Umbra, which is life-bearing, famous for it's thorn forest and where Starbuck was supposedly orphaned in a Cylon raid.

gmd3d · March 1st, 2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by peter noble

In the system that contains Caprica, is Umbra, which is life-bearing, famous for it's thorn forest and where Starbuck was supposedly orphaned in a Cylon raid.

forgot that one..

Reaper · March 1st, 2011, 07:37 PM

I thought Umbra was a section of Carica. Not another stellar body. The City or state of Umbra on the Planet Caprica.

Sarika · March 1st, 2011, 10:05 PM

I believe Umbra was a little agricultural community somewhere probably outside of Caprica's capitol city of Soleus.

I also believe Cyrannus was the solar system that the 12 colonies were situated in. It pertained a system of three suns.
Taking into account how binary systems often work, all three suns would probaly orbit one another or two around one major sun perhaps.

Thus giving space for twelve planets to find their orbit around one of these suns, creating the "inner" and "Outer" planets grouping of orbits within the Cyrannus system. A possibility.

I have also heard that the galaxy the Cyrannus system belonged in was called the Frodian galaxy.

Just my two cubits worth...

Punisher454 · March 2nd, 2011, 02:08 AM

I too thought Umbra was on Caprica.

gmd3d · March 2nd, 2011, 02:13 AM

great stuff...... My knowledge is very rusty so the more that goes in here the better.... lest time I will have to look (that means I can working on modeling set and the hundred other things).

Don´t forget I will be exploring both ideas .

the system that has all the colonies under 1 starsystem

and a multi system.....

I hope to have a friend work on these in cgi and have some great images .... there are other aspect that I have not posted yet I would like to cover.

but this is enough for now...

Great to see you Sarika

peter noble · March 2nd, 2011, 02:19 AM

I don't see how Umbra could be on Caprica which has a planetary defence system (which was sabotaged by Karybdis before the sneak attack, presumably in concert with other 'sleeper' agents on the other colonies).

gmd3d · March 2nd, 2011, 02:24 AM

I have not seen that episode yet ... I have only reached Lost Planet of the Gods, Part I

peter noble · March 2nd, 2011, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Taranis

I have not seen that episode yet ... I have only reached Lost Planet of the Gods, Part I

Dude, hang your head in shame!

gmd3d · March 2nd, 2011, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by peter noble

Dude, hang your head in shame!

I know I know .... its hung

yesterday I was nearly 12 hours working on aspect of the project
design wise and roping in some addition help for this area of the project...

I hope to show some ideas in a week or so.

here is another thing I would like someone to look into

Borellians where are they from.

do they life on a desert like world or part of a world.

also what character has each world ..

now thing not for 12 worlds but 24 worlds. for both aspects will be explored as mentioned.

Punisher454 · March 2nd, 2011, 03:05 AM

I always figured that the nomen were from Borallus, the place Yuri wanted the fleet to go before they chose Carilon. Maga described Their home as "the land of the mega sun and endless sands".

I think the Nomen may be a sect among the Borellians, meaning that the Nomen are Borellians, but not all Borellians are Nomen.

peter noble · March 2nd, 2011, 10:51 AM

From Susan Paxton's BG Concordance:

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BORELLA: Baltar admitted that the Borellian desert layers he saved for the Nomen weren’t actually from Borella but were the closest thing available from the livestock ship (BE). Borella is evidently the home planet of the Nomen; whether it might possibly be the same planet as Borallus is impossible to say from the information given in the series.

BORELLA, FREIGHTER: The Nomen make their home aboard this ship in the fleet (MN).

BORELLIAN DESERT LAYER: Baltar saved some Borellian desert layers for Maga, Bora, and Taba when he was on mess duty aboard the prison barge (BE). Evidently a favored food of the Nomen, probably a bird of some kind; what Baltar gave the Nomen looked like chicken breasts.

BORELLIAN NOMEN: The Nomen are incredibly tough and merciless warriors, the only people who could survive on their planet, “the land of the mega sun and the endless sands.” The Nomen are sustained by their ironbound Code, which determines their conduct. The Nomen believe that only they will survive the exodus from the Colonies. Physically they appear to be human, but with bony ridges above their eye sockets. They have the ability to make their hearts appear to stop for short periods. Mature Nomen are bearded. They wear rough cloaks and carry the feared laser boles on cross belts (MN, BE).

gmd3d · March 2nd, 2011, 11:00 AM

So .... 13 colonies in a way ... in the system .

Interesting
I was not able to do much today as I had hoped so I might work on the system and work on a 3d plan. when I get back this evening ....

peter noble · March 2nd, 2011, 11:07 AM

No, Borella/Borallus might be in another (relatively nearby) system like other colony offshoots like Sectar and Attila.

peter noble · March 2nd, 2011, 02:11 PM

I watched a bit of The Man With Nine Lives again with the subtitles on, and Umbra is on Caprica.

How could I be so horribly wrong!

The ep also brings to light another inconsistancy, in the pilot, Adar mentions "As we approach the sevent millenium of time", but the Umbra attack takes place in 7322, which is the eighth millenium!

gmd3d · March 2nd, 2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by peter noble

I watched a bit of The Man With Nine Lives again with the subtitles on, and Umbra is on Caprica.

How could I be so horribly wrong!

The ep also brings to light another inconsistancy, in the pilot, Adar mentions "As we approach the sevent millenium of time", but the Umbra attack takes place in 7322, which is the eighth millenium!

Never had the chance today , busy with other minor hiccups

but good to know.

I can say that 3d planet will also be done for this

Punisher454 · March 3rd, 2011, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by peter noble

No, Borella/Borallus might be in another (relatively nearby) system like other colony offshoots like Sectar and Attila.

Thats the way I also thought it was implied.

My understanding of the show had Carilon and Borallus outside the 13 colonies proper, but not real distant. These were nearby systems, but still far enough away that they were not visited much. Atilla and Equellis are much farther out. I would think that due to the war going on for the last thousand Yahrens that the voyage to those far away places was too dangerous a journey for regular commerce and those systems were gradually isolated and abandoned by the 13 colonies.

Charybdis · March 3rd, 2011, 09:20 AM

Now which are the inner and which are the outer planets???

peter noble · March 3rd, 2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Charybdis

Now which are the inner and which are the outer planets???

It might depend where you are in the star cluster and what colony you're from, unless the Colonials chose a 'capital' colony.

If there is such a thing, I'd choose Caprica as the prime planet and go from there.

peter noble · March 3rd, 2011, 10:13 AM

Also, if I may suggest, the colonies are named after signs of the Zodiac, in which there are earth, air, water and fire signs, so their distance from each other might be how close or far away from their suns they might be (though still in the 'Goldilocks Zone'.

gmd3d · March 3rd, 2011, 10:25 AM

Caprica

Caprica was said to be the world that led the technological renaissance among the Twelve Colonies of Man, rediscovering space flight along the way.[5]
Gemoni

Many of the passengers about the freighter Gemini are from Gemoni[6]. The language of Gemoni is Gemonese (which Boomer can translate and Cassiopeia is able to speak fluently). Gemoni is home to the Otori Sect (TOS: "Saga of a Star World").
Sagitara

Sagitara was located at coordinates 1-2-6 and was, along with Virgon and Caprica, one of the Inner Colonies, first to be attacked. In the novelization, Adama stated that Sagitara had the most advanced defense system in the Colonies. President Adar hailed from Sagitara.

peter noble · March 3rd, 2011, 10:34 AM

I don't think you can consider the novels canon, because they do vary from what appeared onscreen.

gmd3d · March 3rd, 2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by peter noble

I don't think you can consider the novels canon, because they do vary from what appeared onscreen.

I am bit rusty one some event I am long time away from the show and I am only grabbing snippets when I can and time allows me.

I want expand as much as possible to the BSG universe.

But I feel that some aspect of the novels should be considered canon so long as it does not confident with what is on screen. I agree there.

if we run in to deadlock we can use the voting or poll system to allow the community to decide.

is that agreeable to all.