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March 13th, 2004, 11:56 AM
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what size is the galactica
greeting fellow warriors I have a question and I am hoping that some one can help me.
1. what size is galactica i have heard that it is 2000 ft long 800 ft longer Than present day aircraft Carriers. and other source 6000ft (which i think is more likely)
2. what is her crew complemant on board i have read 500 in one place and in the book it Implies that there a a few thousand crew on board.
3. the viper complement is 75 is that also not a little light with the scale we are talking about. I would think that 75 could be stationed in one landing bay (if the galactica is over 6000 ft long) it would handle that many very easy including shuttles and scarbs (did i get the name right scarb??).
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March 13th, 2004, 08:50 PM
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Which one? The TOS Galactica or the mini Galactica?
I think the one from the mini is smaller than the one in TOS.
What book are you referring to?
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March 13th, 2004, 09:13 PM
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What is a scarb?
I prefer the larger measurement myself. It looks like the landing bay is larger than most modern carriers.
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March 14th, 2004, 07:46 AM
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warhammerdriver, sorry should have said " the TOS" Galactica in the mini its said to be 4500ft i think.
thomas7g, I thought the other name for Landram? is scarb?... but i agree with the larger figure is 6000ft or at least that size.
one other thing while im at it , In the mini the landing vipers use an elevator system in the landing bay and they drop down below the bay, which i think makes a lot of sense, should the old Galactica not have the same system.
Im doing a set of drawing at the moment of how i would like it done I hope to be able to post them here some time when I have finished them.
as i can't post them myself is there another place to mail them when ready
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March 14th, 2004, 07:55 AM
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March 14th, 2004, 08:29 AM
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thanks for the link Stevew great stuff
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March 14th, 2004, 01:17 PM
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The TOS Galactica is about 6080 ft long or one nautical mile, this figure having been realised by actually measuring the filming miniature.
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March 15th, 2004, 03:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peter noble
The TOS Galactica is about 6080 ft long or one nautical mile, this figure having been realised by actually measuring the filming miniature.
Peter
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thank peter thats a great help
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March 15th, 2004, 07:49 AM
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Thanks for the link.
What I really want to know is where Thomas's avatar came from.
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March 15th, 2004, 07:17 PM
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Hi,
Here is some more information on the Galactica size. John Dykstra is quoted as saying that Glen A. Larson conceived the Galactica as being about a mile long in the Official Battlestar Galactica Scrapbook. But here is an interesting article nevertheless:
Colonial Battlestar Size and Capabilities Research by Sean M. Sachs
https://www.battlestargalacticaclub.c...erfleet07.html
Regards,
Nathan
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March 15th, 2004, 07:58 PM
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March 15th, 2004, 10:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cranky1c
Thanks for the link.
What I really want to know is where Thomas's avatar came from.
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My current avatar is from Tabitha, the sequel to Bewitched. Didn't do too well. But Lisa Hartman was adorable.
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March 15th, 2004, 10:03 PM
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I have to say maybe it's my dirty mind but each time I flash past your avatar for a split second I see a naked man on top of a naked woman.
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March 15th, 2004, 10:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rowan
another link that discusses the Galactica's size mmmm is this a male thing?
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Size does matter. So says all the spam in my mailbox.
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March 15th, 2004, 10:38 PM
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I just don't know what to say to that except the spam is wrong!!!
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March 15th, 2004, 11:38 PM
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It's not how big your battlestar is, it's how you use it...
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March 15th, 2004, 11:43 PM
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ROFLMAO:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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March 16th, 2004, 01:14 AM
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Just to get serious for a moment anatomically speaking women are only about 4 inches deep so why would you need more and as for width well a baby's head can fit through there...plus another little bizzar rowan story one of my many jobs in my colourful past consisted of paying the male stripers at a place I worked at, so I got to chat with them before and after their shows. They made their living selling an idea but behind the scenes they would complain that it was completely impractical, that they could never get physically close in intimate situations, and they had to be very careful all the time not to hurt someone so ... I guess for them size does matter only in the wrong way? ah the ironies of life ok I'll shut up now
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March 16th, 2004, 08:28 AM
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thanks for the links Rowan and StarshipTrooper very informative both sites are new to me.
and as to the rest I will leave in your capable hands :laugh: :laugh:
and Muffit I know how to use my Battlestar verry well :laugh: thanks
Just to throw another wild dog into the fray how big is a shuttle craft, how long and how tall is it and please don't tell me is smaller than a Battlestar :laugh: :laugh: that I know
and it has nothing to do with the male aah hmm thing
thanks for the input.
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March 17th, 2004, 04:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by potemkin72000
thanks for the input.
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well I'm afraid I can't resist that one potemkin...It's us ladies who thank you men for the in put
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March 19th, 2004, 01:09 AM
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Boy did this thread take a left turn!
On the issue of input, on behalf of the guys - our pleasure mam
Now on the original topic:
Battlestars are BIG, Glen Larson asked John Dykstra to build a ship about a mile long. John Dykstra designed and built the Galactica on a scale of 1/960 (1 foot equals 960 feet) at 6 feet 4 inches, that makes her 6,080 feet long or one nautical mile in length. Books reporting the Galactica as being 2000 feet in length were written without consulting Dykstra or any of the production staff. Some fans have estimated her as being 4000 feet long, but these estimates are based on internal views, which were matt paintings, not done to scale, but rather what looked cool.
Based on the Dykstra scale the landing bays are 3,000 feet long, 720 feet wide and 315 feet high.
In total volume the center body contains a volume roughly equal to both landing bays combined, the head contains an equal volume of space.
It is important to remember, in 1978, details like this were not considered important. With the advent of VCR’s fans have been able to replay segments of films, extracting details and background information originally thrown in to add flavor to the over all story. These details were never intended to be a serious part of the story.
So pick your size.
A thought problem or simple exercise. At a scale of 1/960 a Viper (28 feet long by 16 feet wide) would be .35 inches long by .2 inches wide. The main landing deck would be 37.5 inches long and 9 inches wide. The central landing strip down the center of the deck would be 4.5 inches wide. A 2.25 inch strip remains on either side, the outer edge will contain the launch tubes and the inner strip shops and storage. Because the landing bay is tapered at both ends, allow a setback from each end of about 4.5 inches.
If you want to play with the scale, you can make the deck bigger or the Viper and shuttle bigger. Just take the dimension and divide by the desired scale then multiply by 12. This will give the scale size in inches. For example a 3,000 foot long landing bay would be 3000/960 x 12 = 37.5 inches.
Make some miniature vipers, shuttles and conduct your own ops. See how many vipers you really could operate from just one deck. Then remember there should be one or two decks below and seven to eleven decks above. Throw in some elevators and things could get interesting.
As I recall a shuttle is 100 ft long, 40 ft wide and 50ft high, or there abouts.
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March 19th, 2004, 01:12 AM
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repcisg
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March 19th, 2004, 02:13 AM
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repcisg ,,Rowan do you want us to leave
on the input thing I did not mean.... ahh..I mean....aah hell its a pleasure.
Rowan you must try to resist
thanks for the scales repcisg i think the landing bays entrance should be larger
when the viper and shuttles land it looks wrong i would love if they reshot the effect of the Galactica like the did in starwars.
any how im doing a number of drawings of how i would like to see the landing bays and hope to finish them soon.
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March 19th, 2004, 10:48 AM
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Apologies Potemkin (bowes head) I am weak! I will try to resist, have I been a bad girl then? does this mean I deserve a THWACK?
Will we get to see your drawings? cause I love to see all the great art that others do , not being talented that way.
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March 19th, 2004, 11:26 AM
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Yes I wish to post them try to get the scales right is hard though it will take some time and I don't know how great they will be but I will aprecate the view of others who know better then I. I like the work done by M.McAdams on the Galactica all but the landing bays. but as i said they are only for my vision of the Galactica and how she would look Internally... does any one know to what scale
M.McAdams Galactica is as it might save me a lot of time.
As to the THWACKING.. i will leave that to your conscience and you can report back to us later. with all the details hee hee
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March 19th, 2004, 02:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by potemkin72000
Yes I wish to post them try to get the scales right is hard though it will take some time and I don't know how great they will be but I will aprecate the view of others who know better then I. I like the work done by M.McAdams on the Galactica all but the landing bays. but as i said they are only for my vision of the Galactica and how she would look Internally... does any one know to what scale
M.McAdams Galactica is as it might save me a lot of time.
As to the THWACKING.. i will leave that to your conscience and you can report back to us later. with all the details hee hee
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First let me say I am looking forward then to seeing your work because I have issues as well with regards to the incorect scales we see. On one level it drives me nuts! so I try and ignore it when I'm watching or it would detract from my enjoyment.
Second all the details of my many Thwackings are in the "Who needs a thwack" thread...enjoy!
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March 20th, 2004, 12:59 PM
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Thank you for the intrest Rowan I would like to hear your issues with the scales for the Galactica. we may think alike.
one of the problem as I see it , Is the landing bay entrance when a Viper lands
there is not a lot of head room, then we see a shuttle landing or taking off there is loads of space.
thats the problem with putting two modals together that are of differant size's
and supposed to be differant scales.
What I am doing is for my own peace of mind and if other people argree with me
thats great and if they don't , well that great too.
wayhoo the scale im looking at is the shuttle leaving the landing bay and in my mind the 6080ft works well with that.
well I hope I don't let you down
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March 21st, 2004, 03:29 PM
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March 24th, 2004, 02:29 AM
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well the Galactica could easly hold that many vipers, shuttles and landrams are another storie anyone care to guess how many shuttle and landrams onboard.
does anyone know the lenght of the Viper launch tubes??? or is there a scale anywhere to check them out???
intresting facts about the baby
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March 24th, 2004, 06:07 AM
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This is a very cool site with all kinds of starship dimensions. You can even move the ships around with respect to each other.
https://www.merzo.net/
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