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December 29th, 2004, 09:16 PM
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What This Forum Is About
For many of us, one reason why "Battlestar Galactica" was able to reasonate in ways that other sci-fi series before it had not done, was because it was one of the first series to offer a forward moving storyline. Unlike "Star Trek", which was completely self-contained to the point that a person could watch a third season episode and a first season episode back to back and not see too many difference, BSG built on situations from previous episodes and the characters accordingly had to adjust themselves because of what had gone on before. Not since the first few episodes of "Lost In Space" had there been anything like this.
Today, the idea of a continuous, forward moving story arc is something we take for granted in sci-fi television, and compared to the standards of today, BSG admittedly has its flaws. The continuity is not razor sharp, and we sometimes see premises thrown at us that disrupt things we knew earlier (like for instance in "Take The Celestra", the emergence of Aurora and the idea that she was a girlfriend of Starbuck's up to the time of the Destruction comes way out of left field considering that we thought Starbuck was only really serious with Athena at that time).
After writing a number of fanfic stories, I was first asked to contribute an adaptation of "Fire In Space" for what at the time (circa 1996) was a project that simply invovled adapting episodes that had not been part of the novelizations. But I took it upon myself to write this story in a way that would not simply adapt it by repeating everything that was on-screen, but rather to tighten up the continuity with what had been established. That meant retaining the general storyline, dialogue, and actions of the characters so it would seem familiar to a fan of the series, but adding extra elements and even adjusting the plot to improve the overall quality of the story.
After doing "Fire In Space", I then decided to move to other episodes, including ones that had already been novelized beacuse now the idea was to adapt every episode of TOS in a way that they could all read as a continuous story arc with perfect continuity flow. Today, nearly nine years later my personal project is two thirds done with 12 of 17 episodes adapted in this format (not all in sequence. The ones I have still yet to do are "The Lost Warrior", "Gun On Ice Planet Zero", "Baltar's Escape", "Experiment In Terra" and "Take The Celestra".)
In this new section, the intent is to inspire not simply feedback on my own adaptations, but to stimulate discussion and creativity based on this premise: How would you remake Battlestar Galactica in terms of using only the stories that were actually filmed (adding no new independent stories), and maintaining the original order in which they were aired? Specifically, what would you do to make sure all 17 stories could be presented anew in a way that maintained the integrity of the original, but at the same time opened them up to deepen the character further, provide important foreshadowings (like for instance, dropping hints about Commander Cain's existence before "Living Legend" or clearing up the matter of Starbuck and Aurora long before TTC)
Each person should feel free to chart his or her own course of how they would go about this. I think in the end if we give some thought to this, we'll end up proving how the existing template of Galactica stories that were broadcast can perhaps someday (if the continuation that we hoped for never happens) be transformed into a remake that would maintain the integrity of the characters and philosophy of the original, while simultaneously taking advantage of tighter writing standards of continuity and character to get that overall sense of flow.
In my next post here, I will provide an outline of how I made changes and additions to "Saga" to set the tone for the season as a whole, and where I felt that in the interests of credibility some minor aspects of what was broadcast needed to be downplayed or dropped/changed altogether. Yet even when making alterations, keeping the integrity of the episode as we knew it remains the first goal. In the course of doing this project, I have found to my surprise that even the most supposedly "silly" plots of the original series can with just a little fine tuning be turned into perfectly plausible storylines.
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December 29th, 2004, 09:26 PM
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Eric, this sounds VERY cool. Something any writer, especially TV writer, would love to have the luxury to do. And something which Galactica's stories needed to bring the quality to a consistant place. You might want to leave that Galactica fanfic website address of Robert Hanczyk (sp?)'s around here somewhere for those that might want to check it out.
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December 29th, 2004, 09:40 PM
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Thanks, Jewels! The link to the fanfic site is:
https://www.galacticafanfic.com/stories/bsgfan.html
Scroll down to "B" and the finished adaptations are arranged in order of broadcast.
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December 29th, 2004, 09:45 PM
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Eric -
Thanks for the link to your fanfic. After reading Bill's BSG script and Steve's Dark Exodus novel, I've been in the mood for more....!
Good job on the new forum section - I hope it spurs some of the creative minds around here!
Best,
Bryan
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December 29th, 2004, 10:19 PM
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Thanks Bryan. Happy reading!
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"How do you tell a Communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin."-Ronald Reagan
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December 29th, 2004, 10:44 PM
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Eric, it's late, but I couldn't resist the temptation to take a brief look at my least fav. Galactica episode as you've rewritten it (MW). Much better rendition than the actual episode and I only got to read into chapter 2 (I really ought to be in bed now!) of it. This forum is a great idea. Great background on Adama and Belloby's prior relationship and the reason she was a thorn in his side and could manipulate him so well.
Jewels
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December 29th, 2004, 10:46 PM
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PS made thread a sticky so it will be up top as long as you think it needs to be, Eric. Nite!
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"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one." Malcolm Reynolds [/color]
"We don't dictate to countries, we liberate countries." Mitt Romney [/color]
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December 29th, 2004, 11:15 PM
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Thanks Jewels on the early feedback, and I think that since I inadvertantly messed up the chance to get the episode threads stickied in sequence like they are in the Episode Review section, keeping this thread as the one permanent sticky should work fine.
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"How do you tell a Communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin."-Ronald Reagan
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July 20th, 2006, 11:22 PM
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If the thread is sticky, what happens when the gum dries out???
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July 21st, 2006, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Senmut
If the thread is sticky, what happens when the gum dries out???
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It only took you 19 months to think of that???
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"They hate us with every fiber of their being. We love....freedom, independence, the right to question. To them it is an alien way of living."-The non-myopic wisdom of Commander Adama, "Saga Of A Star World"
"How do you tell a Communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin."-Ronald Reagan
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July 21st, 2006, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Senmut
If the thread is sticky, what happens when the gum dries out???
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Do you REALLY want to know the answer to that?
(There are times when ignorance, truly, is bliss.)
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Lay down
Your sweet and weary head
The night is falling
You have come to journey's end
Sleep now
And dream of the ones who came before
They are calling
From across the distant shore .
Children are a message that we send
to a time that we will never see.
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July 22nd, 2006, 01:52 PM
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Hammer and chisel
Then you reglue.
As always:
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July 23rd, 2006, 05:42 AM
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Like an aged post it note it quietly detaches from the board and, unseen, floats silently away...
Cheers,
Lara
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August 20th, 2006, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric Paddon
It only took you 19 months to think of that???
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I had only just found the post, O Eppadious Leader!
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Fortuna est caeca. -Cicero
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"You know the night before was a tough one when even the sound of the fizz hurts your head." -Mike Hammer.
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August 20th, 2006, 01:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BST
Do you REALLY want to know the answer to that?
(There are times when ignorance, truly, is bliss.)
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WOULD I ASK???????????????????
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December 15th, 2007, 01:21 PM
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Gee, I miss all the fun!
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December 15th, 2007, 08:39 PM
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Gee, I miss all the fun!
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You didn't miss much of anything. Trust me.
I am
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