Yet Another TOS Battlestar WIP - Page 7

Titon · February 11th, 2011, 06:05 PM

I think your nut's but hey that's up to you.

maudib · February 11th, 2011, 08:37 PM

Update 2-11-11

A couple of big greebles composed of a dozen or so smaller greebles added to neck and reusing the big piece on the midsection sides. The pipes will go in last.

gmd3d · February 12th, 2011, 02:38 AM

nice to see the full views of this.

what scale are you building this at out of curiosity

maudib · February 12th, 2011, 10:32 AM

The scale is 1 mile length. I will probably change it to 2-3 mile length and alter the landing bay entrance so an Eastern Alliance destroyer can easily fit inside. IMHO, 2 mile length is not unreasonable for a main capital ship. In the Babylon5 universe, even the relatively primitive Earth Alliance ships are this size and larger.

gmd3d · February 12th, 2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by maudib

The scale is 1 mile length. I will probably change it to 2-3 mile length and alter the landing bay entrance so an Eastern Alliance destroyer can easily fit inside. IMHO, 2 mile length is not unreasonable for a main capital ship. In the Babylon5 universe, even the relatively primitive Earth Alliance ships are this size and larger.

Cool ... what size is an Eastern Alliance destroyer.

oh I agree about a main capital ship, been 2 miles and more.

as a friend said look at the Super Star Destroyer

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I am only using the 6080 ft as it indicated in some documentation by Glen Larson and John Dykstra, I am also planning some Galactica models.

I was going to do some Buck Rogers but as these posts have got me going now for BSG ..

and I blame you and Apolloisall for getting me back into it

maudib · February 13th, 2011, 06:59 PM

Update 2-13-11

Finished with the big greebles on the neck. Next is the pipes and this panel will be complete for now. FIY, this panel is an amalgam of both the right and left sides. I hated parts of the original, so I juggled parts around till it looked better to me. This is has been my approach for this build.

martok2112 · February 14th, 2011, 01:10 AM

That is simply one very awesome, very photorealistic looking battlestar

gmd3d · February 14th, 2011, 03:31 AM

magnificent work ...

maudib · February 15th, 2011, 06:24 PM

update 2-15-11

Starting on the back side of the front section

gmd3d · February 16th, 2011, 01:27 AM

this will keep you busy ..... looking good

maudib · February 16th, 2011, 01:47 AM

Busy? Hell yes. With your redefining scales and such, It's going to give me major headaches trying to decide on re-imagined greeble details to add

A test render to see how she holds up to reality... looks like the final version will need lots of tiny details to bring the scale of her size to the eye. I think the ISS does just that in this pic!

Excuse me... is this Earth?

gmd3d · February 16th, 2011, 03:38 AM

wow ..... that is a big Ship

what scale is it.

martok2112 · February 16th, 2011, 01:17 PM

Simply beautiful!

Apolloisall · February 16th, 2011, 01:20 PM

I'm staggered.
And that's NOT the Ambrosia talkin'.

gmd3d · February 16th, 2011, 01:25 PM

I still want to build this model myself ...some time

Apolloisall · February 16th, 2011, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Taranis

I still want to build this model myself ...some time

Real or virtual?

maudib · February 17th, 2011, 12:53 AM

Taranis... what scale

gmd3d · February 17th, 2011, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Apolloisall

Real or virtual?

virtual mate virtual!! . if I tried to glue any plastic parts it would mean me eating my dinner through a straw .... because its darn hard to to with glued fingers !!.

gmd3d · February 17th, 2011, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by maudib

Taranis... what scale

you mean that is 6080 ft scale ..

Apolloisall · February 17th, 2011, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Taranis

virtual mate virtual!! . if I tried to glue any plastic parts it would mean me eating my dinner through a straw .... because its darn hard to to with glued fingers !!.

And if I tried to make a virtual model, it would have me in psycho ward in no time!
I spent an hour and a half making a virtual Enterprise once- it was so frustrating! All that time & I couldn't even get the basic shape of the ship right!!!

Plastic bends to my will much more easily.

gmd3d · February 17th, 2011, 08:19 AM

ha ha I know each to his own glue

137th Gebirg · February 17th, 2011, 01:04 PM

Wow - this thing continues to amaze me.

Re: Eastern Alliance Destroyer, I put this schematic together a few years back - assuming that an average male human is about 6 ft tall, I would estimate the Destroyer to be about 270 - 300ft long and about 45-50ft high.

And IIRC, Larson said that the Galactica was always supposed to be "one nautical mile" long, which roughly equates to approximately 6,076 feet. I think the Destroyer could fit in the bay without up-scaling. It would be tight, especially with the landing gear down, but it should fit.

gmd3d · February 17th, 2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 137th Gebirg

Wow - this thing continues to amaze me.

Re: Eastern Alliance Destroyer, I put this schematic together a few years back - assuming that an average male human is about 6 ft tall, I would estimate the Destroyer to be about 270 - 300ft long and about 45-50ft high.

And IIRC, Larson said that the Galactica was always supposed to be "one nautical mile" long, which roughly equates to approximately 6,076 feet. I think the Destroyer could fit in the bay without up-scaling. It would be tight, especially with the landing gear down, but it should fit.

137th Gebirg we have been discussing this very subject on this thread
https://www.colonialfleets.com/forums...ad.php?t=17741

and I scaled Folkrm Galactica model with I believe is very very close to the physical model.

and I found the entrance is roughly 60ft approx so at the 45 to 50 ft tall its should fit, but as you say a tight one.

I am going to be building in the coming weeks the Eastern Alliance Destroyer based on your drawing
so I will use the scales you mention to start

maudib · February 17th, 2011, 06:42 PM

I am having problems with my 5280ft (1 mile)scale. The 1st image shows the shuttle at 122 ft long to be to big for the size of the bridge window. The 2nd image shows the battlestar at 10,560ft (2 mile) scale. The 3rd image is close up at 10,560ft scale with 2 astronauts for scale. I think the larger size looks better here.

Punisher454 · February 17th, 2011, 11:27 PM

I think the bridge window is one of those things that have to be adjusted for scale to make the galactica work.

At 6080' the landingbays are just big enough to operate as depicted in the show. The launchtube exits and various windows should be easy to scale up/down to match.

At some point you will reach the back, and the will have the Celestial dome to consider also.

Anyhow, your work is awesome, please dont stop.

maudib · February 18th, 2011, 12:04 AM

Yes, but my point is that my window is correctly sized for the 1 mile ( 6ft tall window as seen in the TV show) scale. I think Peter Noble is correct when he mentioned in Taranis' thread on Galactica length

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It might be best to start from the top down.

Maybe by identifying what the areas of the bridge do?

https://reocities.com/televisioncity/...36/bridge.html

The 3rd pic shows a 6ft astronaut and a 122ft shuttle with the 2 mile scale mesh, and it still makes the battlestar look smallish. It just goes to show that the whole BSG universe makes no sense. I'll just "wing-it" on my own from now on.

This pic shows a 3 mile length scale, this looks even better against the astronaut!

gmd3d · February 18th, 2011, 01:14 AM

wow again .

A terrestrial mile has a length of 5,280 feet.
The length of one nautical mile is 6,080 feet

before I started the scale thing I did not really know the difference.

I don´t know what you mean by smallish :lol: the bridge is just a small part of a massive ship`.
what surprised me and a few others was the scale of the Battlestar against an Imperial Star Destroyer.

the biggest problem is that on the model of the Galactica no Bridge window is on it. so its going to throw our perceptions out the window.

interesting if I can find time I will look at this too for the bridge. but it may be that the bridge window will have to be bigger.

once we have the bridge done we can work it out

maudib · February 19th, 2011, 07:11 PM

Update 2-19-11

added more greebles to the backside of the front section. My 2 week vacation is over so updates will not be as often for the rest of the year. It's been fun!

Apolloisall · February 19th, 2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by maudib

Update 2-19-11

added more greebles to the backside of the front section. My 2 week vacation is over so updates will not be as often for the rest of the year. It's been fun!

Yer killin' me here with awesome, Maud!

gmd3d · February 20th, 2011, 07:20 AM

simply stunning