Go Back   Colonial Fleets > BATTLESTAR GALACTICA DISCUSSION AREA > The Last Battlestar......Galactica!
Notices
The Last Battlestar......Galactica! For discussions about the ORIGINAL series
What Dreams May Come!

Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old January 24th, 2005, 11:11 AM   #1
thomas7g
out there somewhere
 
thomas7g's Avatar
 
COMMAND INSIGNIAFormer Admin (ret)
Colonial Fleets
BattlestarGalactica-Fleets.com
Owner
Ship Of Lights Forum

Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: The Ship Of Lights
Posts: 5,517


Default Fire in Space better left cold?

LOL! I bet THAT topic draws folks in here!!!!

no this is not a anti BG thread. Infact its in praise of it. One of the episodes I really like is FIRE IN SPACE. Now the whole concepts has some big holes. Fire is not hard to put out in space. We all know that. The writers were idiots for not knowing that.

But one of the things that is so typical is that while the science was flimsy, you loved the characters. That was in part due to the actors being good people and charismatic, but it was also the writing and directing. And while they weren't science whizes they knew how to make characters that jumped off our screens and into our hearts.

But BOY would I love to go back and correct a few things.

First of all, putting out a fire in space is not hard. CLose a few hatches and open an airlock.

What they could have done to make this more believable was say that somehow the cylons started some sort of plasma fire. That they were able to create a fire that existed in the walls of the galactica. The "fire" was reacting with the materials the walls were made of. This makes more sense cause there are certain kinds of fire that can burn underwater. I remember playing with magnesium. Once you light it on fire, it will burn even if you put it underwater. It burns so hot it can supply itself with oxygen from the water itself. So I imagine in scifi its possible to start a fire in a material that provides its own catalysts.

And another small thing, blowing a hole on the hull shouldn't have thrown the ship off her gyros. They treated the ship as delicately balanced. An obvious plot trick for suspense. But the thing is a massive mile long hunk of metal! It takes cylon raiders packed with explosives ramming it. Every battle the ship is hit with explosive forces.

What I think would have eorked better is to instead of dealt with a fire, to deal with the opposite, cold. You just had a cataclysmic attack. But instead of dealing with a fire, say you knock the fire out early. But then you have a damaged ship drifting dead in space. A sitting duck for the cylons. And even worse, its slowly freezing. The cold of space is turning the ship into an icebox. Boomer and company are racing the cold trying to retreat into the warmer ship interior. Rescuers can't reach them cause of battle damage. And they have to bring a dead ship back to life before the cylons come again.

You could have some great poignant scenes of the fleet looking back at the galactica, their only protector drifting and turning silently in space. And they have to abandon her just incase she can't be salvaged. Fleeing from the cylons in a desperate escape. The fleet leaving the old girl behind would have brought tears to our eyes. And the brave souls who would stay with her to effect repairs against all hope would have been a sight to see.

Tigh leading the surviving ships. Apollo refusing to neve again leave a family member behind, not after Zac. Especially not Boxy.

Woulda been grand!
__________________
The Ship of Lights -- A fun place for enjoying all things Battlestar Galactica


"There is a meaning for wings that can not fly!
Its a precious memory of when you once flew in the sky."
thomas7g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 24th, 2005, 04:00 PM   #2
martok2112
Colonial Story Teller
 
martok2112's Avatar
 
FORUM STAFFFleet Moderator
Colonial Fleets

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: New Orleans (Metairie), LA
Posts: 4,785


Default

Great ideas, Tom.
__________________
Don't be a fan. Don't be a victim!-Martok2112
martok2112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 24th, 2005, 05:02 PM   #3
repcisg
Bad Email Address
 
repcisg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Vancouver, Wa USA
Posts: 1,874

Default

Perfect!
repcisg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old January 25th, 2005, 05:51 PM   #4
Harvester
Bad Email Address
 
Harvester's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 10

Default

Sounds an awful lot like 'Out of Gas' from Firefly.......I just happened to finish watching it all on DVD. It's mentioned that those onboard would likely freeze to death before suffocating.

I agree that leaving the ship that delivered your people from armageddon could make for some great onscreen moments.

All in all, at least you could see them spending an hour of TV time correcting that problem, rather than the fire.

Of course, you could do 'Fire in Space' using a '24' approach. Show the attack and the damage control in real time. Just a silly thought.
Harvester is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 4th, 2011, 11:00 PM   #5
Senmut
Strike Leader
 
Senmut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wenatchee, Soviet of WA., Ex U.S.A.
Posts: 4,491

Default Re: Fire in Space better left cold?

Icebox In Space.

Hhmm....doesn't have the same ring.
__________________
Populos stultus viris indignas honores saepe dat. -Horace
----------------------------
Fortuna est caeca. -Cicero
----------------------------
"You know the night before was a tough one when even the sound of the fizz hurts your head." -Mike Hammer.
Senmut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 7th, 2011, 12:18 PM   #6
LadyImmortal
Bad Email Address
 
LadyImmortal's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: South of Wisconsin
Posts: 551


Default Re: Fire in Space better left cold?

I like the idea of a floundering Galactica. That would have made for some awesome drama!

FiS is one of my favorite episodes too . Despite the science plot holes you could drive the Galactica through .
LadyImmortal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 7th, 2011, 01:47 PM   #7
martok2112
Colonial Story Teller
 
martok2112's Avatar
 
FORUM STAFFFleet Moderator
Colonial Fleets

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: New Orleans (Metairie), LA
Posts: 4,785


Default Re: Fire in Space better left cold?

As long as they don't have Muffit tracking down survivors by mushies....that was probably the worst aspect of that episode.
__________________
Don't be a fan. Don't be a victim!-Martok2112
martok2112 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old December 7th, 2011, 07:57 PM   #8
LadyImmortal
Bad Email Address
 
LadyImmortal's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: South of Wisconsin
Posts: 551


Default Re: Fire in Space better left cold?

Ok, now I'm remember the parts of that show that I didn't like - Muffit hunting down mushies... ::shudder::
LadyImmortal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 6th, 2020, 05:24 PM   #9
Senmut
Strike Leader
 
Senmut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wenatchee, Soviet of WA., Ex U.S.A.
Posts: 4,491

Default Re: Fire in Space better left cold?

Or, that the explosion/s took out the controls for the landing bay force field/airlocks, and they can't get to the manual controls easily because of the fire?
__________________
Populos stultus viris indignas honores saepe dat. -Horace
----------------------------
Fortuna est caeca. -Cicero
----------------------------
"You know the night before was a tough one when even the sound of the fizz hurts your head." -Mike Hammer.
Senmut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 7th, 2020, 10:09 AM   #10
ernie90125
Also Present
 
ernie90125's Avatar
 




SPECIAL ACHIEVEMENT AWARDOwner:
BattlestarFanFilms.com

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Newcastle, UK
Posts: 2,066

Default Re: Fire in Space better left cold?

With the bridge crippled and the Cylons’ kamikaze attack a success...what did they do next?

Went back to the base star and never tried it again ?!?!

Eh ?
ernie90125 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 7th, 2020, 01:57 PM   #11
Charybdis
Battlestar Callisto
 
Charybdis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 1,081

Default Re: Fire in Space better left cold?

Yeah, you'd think that with all those Cylon robots around, they could have spared a few by ramming the Galactica with some Raiders and crippling her for good.
__________________
When Commander Adama sees these, he's gonna go crazy!

https://bscallisto.proboards.com/index.cgi
Charybdis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 7th, 2020, 03:41 PM   #12
Eric Paddon
Squadron Leader
 
Eric Paddon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Morristown, NJ
Posts: 1,795

Default Re: Fire in Space better left cold?

The original script called for a new Cylon attack during the climax while Apollo and Starbuck are setting the charges. The network censors killed it.

I have learned more and more how much network censorship interfered with good storytelling. While I actually found the change from lizards to robots better in that it paved the way for the great backstory element of WOTG, we needed to see more casualties on the Colonial side to keep the threat credible.
__________________
"They hate us with every fiber of their being. We love....freedom, independence, the right to question. To them it is an alien way of living."-The non-myopic wisdom of Commander Adama, "Saga Of A Star World"

"How do you tell a Communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin."-Ronald Reagan
Eric Paddon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 7th, 2020, 07:50 PM   #13
Senmut
Strike Leader
 
Senmut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wenatchee, Soviet of WA., Ex U.S.A.
Posts: 4,491

Default Re: Fire in Space better left cold?

One could always posit that the Cylons did not follow up their attack, because the Pegasus distracted them, in some fashion. Rather than do his duty, Baltar would have run and hid, giving Adama time to slip away.
__________________
Populos stultus viris indignas honores saepe dat. -Horace
----------------------------
Fortuna est caeca. -Cicero
----------------------------
"You know the night before was a tough one when even the sound of the fizz hurts your head." -Mike Hammer.
Senmut is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
BG-09: Fire In Space Flamingo Girl Battlestar Galactica
1978/80 Episode Reviews
68 May 9th, 2012 02:37 PM
Space Mutiny ernie90125 The Last Battlestar......Galactica! 20 February 17th, 2004 01:54 PM
Download Battlestar Galactica Space Alert!!! thomas7g The Last Battlestar......Galactica! 9 December 11th, 2003 08:03 PM
Download Battlestar Galactica Space Alert!!! thomas7g Miscellaneous Entertainment 1 December 4th, 2003 08:16 PM
Apples in Space? The Blue Mule The Last Battlestar......Galactica! 6 July 31st, 2003 07:22 AM




So sez our Muffit!!!

For fans of the Classic Battlestar Galactica series



COPYRIGHT
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:26 PM. Contact the Fleet - Colonial Fleets - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top
Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.11, Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content and Graphics ©2000-Present Colonial Fleets
The Colonial Fleets Forums are run by Battlestar Galactica fans, paid for by Battlestar Galactica fans, for the enjoyment of fellow Battlestar Galactica fans.



©2000-2008 Colonial Fleets