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July 12th, 2013, 02:46 PM
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Shuttle Pilot
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Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
I have done a re-edit of Galactica Discovers Earth, but YouTube is blocking it.
I have actually submitted a Fair Use claim, stating that the edit was done for comment and criticism. We'll see if they accept it.
Much in the same vein as my Spaceball eit, this is what it is like:
For many fans of Battlestar Galactica, Galactica 1980 was a travesty. Made on a budget slightly less than a penny, and with a corporate directive to be "kid friendly", this show was doomed from the start.
But within the horror of Galactica 1980, each episode had a gem of a good idea within it. The only problem was that gem was wrapped in crap, surrounded by turd, and covered in hork.
The question I want to entertain is: Can these episodes be salvaged?
Inspired by the work of David Kerin (if you don't know who he is, you are no Battlestar Galactica fan), I have set about to re-edit Galactica 1980 to something more tolerable. I offer to you these for commentary and discussion. Let me know your thoughts.
For this first outing, we have Galactica Discovers Earth, the first episode of the 1980 series.
I have made the following changes:
- Inane dialogue reduced. Sorry, couldn't get it all. And I acknowledge the original series' nod to children via Boxey, so I did leave in some of the children-friendly sequences here as well.
- Dr. Zee zeroed out. There was simply no excuse for this character. It was a bit difficult to remove him, so let me know if it worked out.
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I'll let you know if I win the copyright dispute.
Pearls of Wisdom - "Be holy, for I am holy." - God
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July 12th, 2013, 03:21 PM
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Warrior Ace
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Re: Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
Wow... to take out Dr. Zee is an endeavor! Can't wait to see it.
Youtube is weird how some things go through and others don't. The Promised Land is on there, but maybe its different enough? Or maybe since that upload they got a bit more strict. However I've seen other posters that simply put the full unedited episodes online, so go figure!
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July 13th, 2013, 11:39 AM
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Shuttle Pilot
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Re: Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
I guess it just depends on whatever matches their filters.
I actually am very interested in hearing your opinion in particular.
In the meantime, I have already started work on the next episode, The Super Scouts who, I promise, will be de-superized.
Pearls of Wisdom - I am a bomb technician. If you see me running, try to catch up!
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July 26th, 2013, 08:45 PM
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Shuttle Pilot
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Re: Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
Part one is on YouTube. Better watch it before they take it down. Who knows, maybe they won't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JROxjE4xfeI
Pearls of Wisdom - I'm not 50. I'm 49.95!
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July 26th, 2013, 10:44 PM
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Strike Leader
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Re: Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
Before tax?
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July 30th, 2013, 02:44 PM
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Shuttle Pilot
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Re: Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
Part two is up at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAkL88h-6jY
This is the simulated attack on Earth and has a few changes. Check it out and let me know what you think. Hopefully it's a little more exciting than the original version.
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July 30th, 2013, 04:29 PM
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Warrior Ace
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Re: Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
Wow... I never thought of The Day After for footage. You really pulled out all the stops for the simulation, and I liked it. Its funny how I have to watch these at least twice, because the first time my mind is watching all the editing cuts and choices. Second time I can put that aside and watch for the continuity. So far I think it's really working. Dr. Zee is cut completely out, and the dialogue can still work together to tell a story.
When you were first talking about this edit, I wasn't really sure how different you could make it from what it was, but even with your changes so far it hits a far better feel that what Galactica 1980 was. And thanks for throwing some of my edit shots in there! I like to see them when I don't expect it because it lets me see them with a different point of view, and see if they actually work or don't. Cool cool cool!
Awaiting part 3! And now really curious for Super Scouts. Actually that ep has the great battle (well, great for G1980 terms) in the beginning so that would be fun.
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July 30th, 2013, 08:22 PM
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Shuttle Pilot
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Re: Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
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Originally Posted by David Kerin
Wow... I never thought of The Day After for footage. You really pulled out all the stops for the simulation, and I liked it. Its funny how I have to watch these at least twice, because the first time my mind is watching all the editing cuts and choices. Second time I can put that aside and watch for the continuity. So far I think it's really working. Dr. Zee is cut completely out, and the dialogue can still work together to tell a story.
When you were first talking about this edit, I wasn't really sure how different you could make it from what it was, but even with your changes so far it hits a far better feel that what Galactica 1980 was. And thanks for throwing some of my edit shots in there! I like to see them when I don't expect it because it lets me see them with a different point of view, and see if they actually work or don't. Cool cool cool!
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Your words of encouragement mean a great deal to me. Thank you!
Speaking of cuts, some of them are fairly subtle. A sentence or two chopped out. (The scene with the bikers that comes up later, for instance.) Others are wholesale where entire scenes are removed. (How many times can we see Troy and Dillion fly away on their bikes?) If people can stomach it, they may try watching the original version and then immediately view the edits to really see what was changed. But then, I really wouldn't wish anyone to endure two viewings of Galactica 1980! Hahaha
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And now really curious for Super Scouts. Actually that ep has the great battle (well, great for G1980 terms) in the beginning so that would be fun.
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Actually, I've already finished part one. I think the battle scene is pretty good, but that may just be my ego talking.
Pearls of Wisdom - Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
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July 31st, 2013, 09:15 AM
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Warrior Ace
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Re: Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
I've been playing with an edit that combines Greetings from Earth, Baltar's Escape and Experiment in Terra into one movie length episode. Some of the most fun is editing dialogue. Amazing how you can edit out portions and still retain the story telling. (at least one hopes so) Tricky thing sometimes is the music that may be in the background. Hard to blend that if it doesn't match into the following clip, and it sounds weird if one shot has music in the background and the next it just stops. Sometimes if it's just music I'll let that extend into the next clip and fade out where appropriate.
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July 31st, 2013, 06:52 PM
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Shuttle Pilot
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Re: Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
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Originally Posted by David Kerin
ITricky thing sometimes is the music that may be in the background. Hard to blend that if it doesn't match into the following clip, and it sounds weird if one shot has music in the background and the next it just stops. Sometimes if it's just music I'll let that extend into the next clip and fade out where appropriate.
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I do that sometimes. Other times I whip out my trusty soundtrack CD. Alas I only have the one from Saga, though.
Pearls of Wisdom - "The most important part of reading is reading between the lines!" - The Reading Caboose
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August 2nd, 2013, 10:26 AM
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Shuttle Pilot
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Re: Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
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August 3rd, 2013, 08:46 PM
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Shuttle Pilot
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Re: Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
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August 4th, 2013, 07:40 AM
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Warrior ACE!
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Re: Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
outstanding work with the material at hand Anyone else having problems with part 6? it won't play for me.
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August 4th, 2013, 11:59 AM
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Shuttle Pilot
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Re: Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
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Originally Posted by Reaper
outstanding work with the material at hand Anyone else having problems with part 6? it won't play for me.
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I just checked. It is working. Maybe a YouTube glitch?
Pearls of Wisdom - If you have to do something in secret, then it's probably something you shouldn't be doing in the first place.
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August 6th, 2013, 11:07 AM
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Shuttle Pilot
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Re: Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
Part eight at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpeaYxiPSEU
Pearls of Wisdom - Diplomacy: Saying "nice doggie" until you find a big rock.
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August 7th, 2013, 03:13 PM
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Warrior
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Re: Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
Excellent work with the new footage additions. Although I noticed a repeating of the same shots when the Cylon fighters attacked Los Angeles. You should have completely redone the Cylon attack on LA without the Galactica:1980 footage.
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August 7th, 2013, 03:50 PM
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Warrior Ace
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Re: Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
Now that all are up, I may save them and burn them to a disk to watch all at once. Haven't had time recently to catch up on them, so it may make a good sit down viewing coming up!!!
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August 8th, 2013, 10:43 AM
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Shuttle Pilot
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Re: Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
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Originally Posted by PaulGTweed
Excellent work with the new footage additions. Although I noticed a repeating of the same shots when the Cylon fighters attacked Los Angeles. You should have completely redone the Cylon attack on LA without the Galactica:1980 footage.
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I tried to use as much original footage as I could, only throwing in additional footage as I thought necessary to enhance a scene.
As for repeating shots, well this is Battlestar Galactica. I figured reused footage is a hallmark.
I would love to see a redone Hollywood attack, but that is not my forte. Perhaps David Kerin would like to take a shot at that...?
Pearls of Wisdom - Commandment VII: You shall not commit adultery.
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August 12th, 2013, 12:40 PM
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Shuttle Pilot
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Re: Galactica Discovers Earth Redux
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Originally Posted by Lighthope
I have done a re-edit of Galactica Discovers Earth, but YouTube is blocking it.
I have actually submitted a Fair Use claim, stating that the edit was done for comment and criticism. We'll see if they accept it.
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Well, I won the dispute. Actually, Universal never responded so I won be default. Whatever.
So it looks like this will stay up there.
Pearls of Wisdom - The public should get the government they want, and the should get it good and hard.
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