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March 7th, 2006, 09:51 AM
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Gordon's viper helmet design
Okay,
Just to put a little pressure on myself, I decided to start this thread. I started making sketches of my own viper helmet design... as per discussion in another thread.
The justification of the side view and the front view and the top view of my design is really difficult on paper. I know it will work in 3 dimensions, but my drawing skills are atrophied at best from dis-use.
Once I get a decent set of drawings, I'll post them. maybe I'll even do a quickie sculpt over a GI Joe head to show the concept in 3-D with jpegs.
-Gordon 
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March 7th, 2006, 10:09 AM
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Cool.........I know a TOS Season 2 Helmet design that was never seen in the show was sold by Profiles in History a while ago. Are you using this for reference, or is it 100% your own ?
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March 7th, 2006, 10:22 AM
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That was probably the "Daggit Squadron" helmet. Also used at the Battle Of Galactica tram attraction.
I'm actually in the middle of refurbishing that for its owner right now (Peter Noble). Its a nice piece. Built on top of a Simpson motocross helmet.
But no, that's not what I'm basing it on.
My thought is just to streamline and update the original helmet design. Its a great design and i don't know why anyone would want to mess with it too much.
But the geometry of the thing is actually much more complex than one would think. That's why I'm having a little trouble with the justification of some of the lines on my re-worked design.
-Gordon
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March 7th, 2006, 11:32 AM
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Wow, 3D now?
This is going to be very interesting!
Best,
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March 7th, 2006, 11:37 AM
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Its just a quick way of portraying the geometry. not a finished model.
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March 7th, 2006, 11:58 AM
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Its just a quick way of portraying the geometry. not a finished model.
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Yep, I understood, a sort of 3D sketch.
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March 7th, 2006, 12:32 PM
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Where be da pics??? 
BTW, the Daggit helmets were used in G-80 once or twice, for those not knowing.
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March 7th, 2006, 03:04 PM
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Go Gordon GO!!!!
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March 7th, 2006, 04:02 PM
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hey hey hey... calm down folks.
I'm on the job, but i just posted this thread TODAY. I haven't been able to plop my arse down in front of the boob toob and get all zen to the musical stylings of American Idol. That's where I do my best work! (I can ignore those stupid kids and concentrate!)
I'll get some better drawings done up and post them by mid next week.
-G
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March 7th, 2006, 08:03 PM
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Hey G
You done yet?
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March 7th, 2006, 10:18 PM
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Done yet?
How about now?
Now?
Now???
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March 7th, 2006, 11:26 PM
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...are we there yet?
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March 8th, 2006, 09:09 AM
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Okay smarty-pants!
Keep it up and I'm gonna turn this thread around and head for home! You kids settle down back there and read your funny books.
Michael, I hope you appreciate me taking the heat off of you like this. Get them kits shipped quickly...it won't last for long.
-Gordon
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March 8th, 2006, 01:50 PM
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Okay smarty-pants!
Keep it up and I'm gonna turn this thread around and head for home! You kids settle down back there and read your funny books.
Michael, I hope you appreciate me taking the heat off of you like this. Get them kits shipped quickly...it won't last for long.
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Thanks Gordon!!! 
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March 10th, 2006, 08:13 AM
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March 16th, 2006, 06:49 AM
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Bump! 
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March 16th, 2006, 09:06 AM
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I can't wait to see this!
Anyone know a source for the old style helmet? That guy does not seem to be on ebay anymore.
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March 17th, 2006, 08:15 AM
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Just so you all know, my drawings are done. I just haven't had time to scan them.
tease tease tease.
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March 17th, 2006, 08:22 AM
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Just so you all know, my drawings are done. I just haven't had time to scan them.
tease tease tease.
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Gordon....give me a ring.
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March 17th, 2006, 09:06 AM
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Just so you all know, my drawings are done. I just haven't had time to scan them.
tease tease tease.
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Why I oughta...
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March 17th, 2006, 02:26 PM
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But seriously... like I said, I'm not radically redefining the helmet. All the familiar elements are there and are reflected in this design. It's just streamlined a little. The helmet from the Desanto designs is far more wildly modified than mine.
In fact, one might callmy redesign rather podantic. I'll get it up on Monday if possible.
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March 17th, 2006, 03:21 PM
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Are we there yet?
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March 17th, 2006, 04:28 PM
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ARE WE THERE YET???
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March 17th, 2006, 09:56 PM
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updated helmets, oh, will be watching this thread.
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March 17th, 2006, 10:49 PM
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If we are not nice the Gordon he may not want to play with us anymore. Looking forward to your post next week.
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March 17th, 2006, 11:00 PM
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Awww! Come on! Gordon knows we love him. You only tease the ones you like!
Speaking of which.......... (I wont say it)
But I will say that I am very much looking forward to seeing more of Gordon's work.
You rock, dude!
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March 20th, 2006, 07:38 AM
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okay, sorry about this, but I'm buried this week. I won't be getting that thing scanned. I have a HUGE project to get out the door to Atlanta by Friday evening and we're not half way there. Sorry...you'll have to be a bit more patient.
-G
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Bump!
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March 27th, 2006, 12:41 PM
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Yes, we ARE there.
Tell me how to post this image.
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