Battlestar Galactica to the Big Screen?

[Promus]

I think the worst part of those ideas were the character changes and the horrific, traumatic stuff like Athena catching on fire and Adama burning his hands off while trying to put out the fire with his bare hands. I mean...sheesh! Plus it was really part of a hackneyed excuse for them to recast the role of Athena, since she'd have go undergo "reconstructive surgery" or something. Which basically means no Maren Jensen. Which, for somebody like me, is REALLY stupid!! Heck, walking Vipers sounds better than that.

[TwoBrainedCylon]

I could have handled some major downpoints in the series. Properly presented, Athena burning up would have been a good (storywise) development, although I'd have taken the character out completely. By the end of the series, Cassie had assumed the watch-hen role for Adama and having him plodding through the emotions of failing to save his daughter would have been a good mechanism to really bring out their relationship and keep Adama as a forefront character beyond stiff commander on the bridge.

I could never accept the walking viper bit.

In my opinion, Larson isn't a developer as much as he is an opportunist. He did a masterful job at bringing talented folks together but as the singular show developer, he's lacking. Ron Moore and George Lucas are similar in that respect as they can get something going but then have no idea what they want to do with it. 98% of Star Wars brilliance was outside of Lucas and similarly, Galactica's flare came from the people Glen hired (some of whom were the same folks from Star Wars).

My concern for Glen's involvement is that he doesn't bring anything to the table other than the copyright ownership and his previous ideas haven't been all that good.


Russell




Singer and DeSanto are far better at developing out

[peter noble]

I'd just like to point out that the walking Vipers are from the Pegasus movie Larson planned to do with Todd Moyer, and NOT from the second season document.

[Promus]

Why is everyone so opposed to the idea of "walking Vipers," anyway? In an odd sense, I think it actually sounds kind of cool.

Certainly better than killing off/recasting Athena!

[BST]

Originally Posted by Promus

Why is everyone so opposed to the idea of "walking Vipers," anyway? In an odd sense, I think it actually sounds kind of cool.

Certainly better than killing off/recasting Athena!

For me, it would help distance the show from the comparisons to Star Wars.

[Promus]

Possibly, although Lucasfilm might still say it's too similar to the AT-ST walkers from "Return of the Jedi."

[dilbertman]

Originally Posted by Promus

Possibly, although Lucasfilm might still say it's too similar to the AT-ST walkers from "Return of the Jedi."

Or the "Droid Starfighters" from "The Phantom Menace".




https://www.spencer1984.com/my_models/droidfighter.php

Jim

[peter noble]

Robotech/Macross got their first in the 80s.

Here's a Valkyrie from the most recent series, Macross Frontier.

[Promus]

Originally Posted by dilbertman

Or the "Droid Starfighters" from "The Phantom Menace".

Ah ha, I KNEW there was a better Star Wars example to use!

[monolith21]

I'm not at all keen on the walking Vipers...but it certainly wouldn't be a deal breaker for me if the story was great.

I doubt Singer will use walking Vipers though. He seems pretty set on sticking with the original.

[Kronus]

I agree with BST...the walking viper is a lot like Star Wars and BSG needs to distance from that. The last thing we need is LucasFilms gumming up the works. Besides, I would hope that BSG would strive more for originality...I would hope like Monolith stated about Singer...staying close to the original concepts...

[Gemini1999]

Originally Posted by Kronus

I agree with BST...the walking viper is a lot like Star Wars and BSG needs to distance from that. The last thing we need is LucasFilms gumming up the works. Besides, I would hope that BSG would strive more for originality...I would hope like Monolith stated about Singer...staying close to the original concepts...

Not to mention the fact that a walking Viper.....where's the need? The Colonials have Landrams and power sleds, so it's just not necessary.

Also, given the fact that there have been 2 Transformers films already, the idea of a walking Viper would probably draw more criticism than it would be worth.

Personally, I was never wowed by the idea when I first heard about it.

Bryan

[spiderr987]

Originally Posted by TwoBrainedCylon

I could have handled some major downpoints in the series. Properly presented, Athena burning up would have been a good (storywise) development, although I'd have taken the character out completely. By the end of the series, Cassie had assumed the watch-hen role for Adama and having him plodding through the emotions of failing to save his daughter would have been a good mechanism to really bring out their relationship and keep Adama as a forefront character beyond stiff commander on the bridge.

I could never accept the walking viper bit.

In my opinion, Larson isn't a developer as much as he is an opportunist. He did a masterful job at bringing talented folks together but as the singular show developer, he's lacking. Ron Moore and George Lucas are similar in that respect as they can get something going but then have no idea what they want to do with it. 98% of Star Wars brilliance was outside of Lucas and similarly, Galactica's flare came from the people Glen hired (some of whom were the same folks from Star Wars).

My concern for Glen's involvement is that he doesn't bring anything to the table other than the copyright ownership and his previous ideas haven't been all that good.


Russell




Singer and DeSanto are far better at developing out

Hmmm... interesting take on things, Russell. I never thought of it like that. I guess it take more than a general to win a war. ...not comparing to the two in character, of course, but Hitler was a propaganda genius, but was clueless on overall strategy and war tactics. Thank God he didn't listen to the very war savvy generals at his command.

[Athene]

Originally Posted by monolith21

I'm not at all keen on the walking Vipers...but it certainly wouldn't be a deal breaker for me if the story was great.

I doubt Singer will use walking Vipers though. He seems pretty set on sticking with the original.

I'm not keen on the walking Vipers either. I also like the fact that Singer being pretty set on sticking with the original. You can't beat an original IMHO.

[spiderr987]

Originally Posted by Athene

I'm not keen on the walking Vipers either. I also like the fact that Singer being pretty set on sticking with the original. You can't beat an original IMHO.

That's true. I'm an even bigger STAR WARS fan, than I am of BSG TOS and look what happened when Lucas strayed from the spiritual origins of the Force and starting getting all Church of Scientology on us, with all the MidiChlorian crap. When Qui Gon Gin pulled out the Tri-quarter and did a body scan and analyzing blood samples, I thought I was watching STAR TREK for a sec. For the record, I prefer to keep my STAR TREK scientific and my STAR WARS spiritual.

[Kronus]

Originally Posted by spiderr987

That's true. I'm an even bigger STAR WARS fan, than I am of BSG TOS and look what happened when Lucas strayed from the spiritual origins of the Force and starting getting all Church of Scientology on us, with all the MidiChlorian crap. When Qui Gon Gin pulled out the Tri-quarter and did a body scan and analyzing blood samples, I thought I was watching STAR TREK for a sec. For the record, I prefer to keep my STAR TREK scientific and my STAR WARS spiritual.

You know I reacted the same way! They didn't need to explain WHY the Jedi had the powerof the Force...

Okay I better stop before I get WAY off the main topic...

I am really putting a lot of hope and faith (and I know I am not alone in this) into Singer in keeping close to the original and not allowing Larsen and others to stray off into something like Ron's version and have nothing in common with the heart of what made the 1978 BSG "BSG."

[Damocles]

Originally Posted by spiderr987

That's true. I'm an even bigger STAR WARS fan, than I am of BSG TOS and look what happened when Lucas strayed from the spiritual origins of the Force and starting getting all Church of Scientology on us, with all the MidiChlorian crap. When Qui Gon Gin pulled out the Tri-quarter and did a body scan and analyzing blood samples, I thought I was watching STAR TREK for a sec. For the record, I prefer to keep my STAR TREK scientific and my STAR WARS spiritual.

Neither were or are; at least not when they drifted out of original concept.

[spiderr987]

It took me this long, before I came across the actor, who has the charm, charisma and playboy attributes to give Dirk's Starbuck role the justice it deserves:



Matt Bomer

Matt Bomer stars as Neal Caffrey in the new USA Network original series White Collar premiering Friday, October 23, 2009 at 10/9c.

Bomer's television credits include a lead role in the ABC series "Traveler," and recurring roles on the NBC series "Chuck" and the FOX series "Tru Calling."

In feature films, Bomer starred in New Line's "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning," and appeared in "Flightplan" with Jodie Foster.

Bomer received a BFA from Carnegie Mellon University. After college, he moved to New York, where he worked on stage until landing roles on television.

Bomer currently resides in Los Angeles.

https://www.usanetwork.com/series/whitecoll...s/neal/bio.html

[Kronus]

Leave it to a girl to find this guy to play Starbuck...

He isn't a bad actor at all, in fact he would make a good candidate for the role.

[bsg1fan1975]

I know that Adama would have to be re-cast or aooear in CGI form but if he was re-cast I would love to see Mark Harmon play him! I love his portrayal of Gibbs on NCIS and I think he'd make a great Adama

[Kronus]

In all fairness, I haven't given much thought of who would portray Adama well. I still like Tom Selleck now that I have seen him play many roles beside Magnum and noticed how well he would be able to be a good Adama...

I know if he was Adama ther would be a huge influx of female viewers and they will drag their hubbies/bo-friends/kids/friends right along with them.

If they can get a cast that would meet with the what most of us would like to see...this movie will be a big hit...well along with a good story/effects...duh.

[spiderr987]

Originally Posted by Kronus

Leave it to a girl to find this guy to play Starbuck...

He isn't a bad actor at all, in fact he would make a good candidate for the role.

Actually, I'm a guy. ...just have a knack for casting...

[Kronus]

Originally Posted by spiderr987

Actually, I'm a guy. ...just have a knack for casting...

Huh? At skiffy your profile says female...well you successfully fooled me

[spiderr987]

I never fill that personal stuff out correctly at Skiffy and other sites. I've been stalked several times by some of those Ted GINO creeps, on many occassionl... pretty sad and psychotic

[KJ]

Yes spiderr987 they are, but i figured if you met them in real life you'd be pretty disappointed seeing how either small or weak they'll be or ignorant. They abuse the online use of the internet is all, but those kind of people are all talk and mouth. Push comes to shove they probably crap'em selves, or unable to talk they way of out a real arguement face-to-face etc. Didn't Sandy say he once saw Ted in person, and was sooooooooo....... disappointed he actually did!

Heh, looking back i remember it was old CF member 'R Grant' that sussed him out first and his split personalities. But him and his Gino allies did damage to the TOS BSG revival though, been years but i won't forget 'Christmas 2002' Battle Of Helms Deep as it was called on Skiffy but nor will they, as they certainly got theirs too. Forget'em spiderr, in real life you'd own them. Cos as you've stated, they sad and psychotic. And those types of people online aren't the macho kind.

A witty person can be rude and insulting, but that doesn't mean they'd win the fight for real or any arguement in person though.

KJ

[spiderr987]

Yeah, I agree. Wow! Sandy saw this guy in real life? You'd think, with that in mind, this guy would chill out, knowing we know his real identity. What a head job. He's at it, again, on the SyFy boards. ...goes under the GoramFrakkingNerfHerder and CenturiomTerminator screennames, among many others. He has the mentality of a 12-year old boy. Most of us, recently, placed him on [IGNORE]. He also posts on the imdb.com board under the screennames of Uther8 and many others. If he wants to make an azz of himself, that's fine with me. It's just the stalking bit that really borders on "needs psychelogical treatment asap." He's really given that fandom a really bad name. Most of my "fight-fire-with-fire" responses have been due to that jackazz. I didn't realize what was going on til later, when it was all laid for me over at Moist. It's so sad... SyFy used to be my fav channel, until Hammer came in and turned into her own little funhouse. I hate that place, now. Okay, I'll stop.

-changes subject to avoid mod intervention-

I can't wait for that new Singer/Larson movie! What did you think my Starbuck suggestion from that new tv show, WHITE COLLAR?

[TwoBrainedCylon]

As memory serves, I was the one who busted open Ted's game with the thread "Milton's House of Cards Falls". I discovered his antics when his posting times and handles (TashaYar, Milton, etc.) fell in tandum and his IPs all linked back to the same server. Things unraveled from there.

Later, I met him for lunch during which he "came clean". It was as close to talking to Gollum as any human being will likely ever come. Ted proved himself to be a total waste of both an abundant amount of flesh and a diseased little mind. The man has some serious mental issues and is in every way, as mentally defective as our own Langy, although there are a few individuals in the GINO crowd and one other from the original series crowd who could give him a run for his money.

I think RGrant was famous for recognizing Langy and his circle of idiocy. I was slow on that one.

With years of experience behind me, I've taken the stance that these folks are pathetic little jokes hardly worthy of anyone's time. I've certainly wasted too much time and emotional capital on them and I suggest that nobody else repeat my mistakes in this area.

All my best,


Russell

[spiderr987]

No, Russell. I am the most embarrassed that I fell for his little game. Seriously, I turned the other cheek for quite some time, hoping the mods at imdb and Skiffy would step in. I was a hopeless romantic in that regard, I guess, not to mention naive. Finally, after barrage, after barrage of unchecked attacks, I snapped, bigtime. I'm ultra embarrassed about how I let him get to me back then. All I can do is try aproach things a bit differently, when confronted with his ilk, such as placing him on [IGNORE], like I've been doing, as of late. I hope you'll understand how abrasive I came off back then, as I was being run through the Ted-ringer at the time and had no idea was going on. *sigh*

[BST]

Spider,

A lot of us got caught by that particular "Ted-ringer". LSF, myself, Sparky, Dawg, TwoBrain, KJ, etc.... those were the infamous Clone War days. Unfortunately, you got a little taste of what we went through.

We only wish that such things as the "Ignore" function existed in those days. It would have made online life a lot less stressful.

BST

[bsg1fan1975]

I would have to agree with you on that one BST even though I've never been to that particular board. There are times in my life where I wish there had been an "ignore" button for so many people or things that irked me!